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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:27 pm 
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Anyone here of the Psycho Ballistics Lighting autococker? Here take a look http://psychoballistics.com/home.html I geuss you can say its the poor mans autococker but surprisingly I thought it would be more money. I'm getting one for 225.Does a autococker need an electric hopper? cuz this one will if they do

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:45 pm 
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I have heard some bad things about these, pshycoballistics had some problems for a while. i do believe that most cocker parts work on them however.

Its a basic cocker clone (actually a cheaper clone of a dye cocker), haven't had a chance to check out one up close, but with such an old design, its kinda hard to goof, you know? The main problem I have heard with them is blowing the hoses on the front because of the LPR not being temperamental. That was a year ago, they have probably fixed that by now.

Few things, it will need a regulator to get running, but a stock cocker one will run you pretty cheap. That also means you will need a bottomline and asa or unimount. For best performance, it will need an anti-siphon tank, but get the rest of it setup, and I will do that for you.

An agitated loader is recommended for how fast you can start to shoot these out of the box. If you keep the shooting to a decent level, a 12v revolution or Reloader will work fine for you.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:51 am 
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Don't do it, get the new WGP trilogy line. For 240 shipped you can have a trilogy pro, which has a regulator and two barrel backs one .691 and one .687. I would get a JAM-like bolt first then a motorized hopper cus with the hopper you can still short stroke, I never did though but I was used to the heavy pull of a tippmann carbine. Or heres a good deal http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 14571&rd=1
Psychoballistics, in my experence, lacks quality. I got two delta .68 pistols from them, gased them, and since I didn't have them cocked back, which they failed to mention I needed to do in the one page manuel, the cup seals got destroyed and neither of the guns worked.
Another option you could go with is a Dragun the one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 31176&rd=1, its an electro-pneumatic air ram marker you can get for around 220 and it runs on llow presure, has eyes and is very reliable.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:53 am 
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I'm accutally getting the trilogy sport cus thats all I can afford with a house and a family, it runs on high presure, and If anyone has seen one or run a high presure cocker I wanna know how it is.

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cockers were full pressure for years, the 99 and lower bodies all handle full pressure CO2 well (which is why they run best on 12 grams for a sniper). If the cup seal can handle it, they will run fine.

of note, how did the cup seals on the deltas fail? its just a spyder cupseal after all.

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So is this a good deal or what?

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You read and decide, they have upgrades and downs.

Up - price

Down, service and sometimes quality

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so is the quality as bad as the Icon z i bought cuz if thats the case then I'm deff. not buying it. but let me ask u this if were in my position would you buy it? If you had 220-230 to spend what would u get? this is a ver y important choice.

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For that a niceley used stroker or something... Maybe even a used stock blazer if you are lucky.

For a bit more you could get a CCM series cocker, some of the best around, but not the most expensive.

http://paintmagazine.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1748

Nightrocker has some for sale at that link, and I have dealt with him before.

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the seal by where the 12 gram is sealed off blew out, happened to both on the first time, then they would never send me replacements or even let me buy them. I played around with one of the new trilogy at dick's sporting goods and they felt nice, smaller then the other cockers I had. I think the icon Z is made by psycho ballisitics or one of their clone companies (NPS), So is the silver bullet and from what I've seen those things are ***.

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